You dumb f&#s got Qwen 4 banned from open source!!!
The new 27b and Flash models are now under a security review by CAC because of your little stunt, and as a result we may never see another Chinese open source model release ever again.
Go f&$! yourself.
I understand your frustration but the actions of any other party as a reaction are not their fault.
It absolutely is if they were too dumb to pay attention to Article 4(1) of the CAC's (Cyberspace Administration of China) Interim Measures for the Management of Generative Artificial Intelligence Services:
"Models must ADHERE to Core Socialist Values and CANNOT generate content that undermines state power or national image."
Uncensored fine tunes previously were about safety guard rails, NOT removing political propaganda...by doing so, they've publicly proven to CCP hardliners that no lab can release an open source model that can actually adhere to Article 4(1) without being broken. NO model will be able to.
Their dumb stunt just killed frontier open source for everyone.
Dude, if what you say confirme itself, they did the US and NVIDIA (which bought hugginface) a favor and that will allow the US to take the lead in open source model again or to kill it completely and be able to rent .
Dude, if what you say confirme itself, they did the US and NVIDIA (which bought hugginface) a favor and that will allow the US to take the lead in open source model again or to kill it completely and be able to rent .
Yeah, take the lead by kneecapping open source to always be 12-24mo behind same weight paid models...no one but the top labs have the compute to train small models on their own, and there's no way frontier will destroy their own revenue.
I'm honestly so pissed right now, Qwen 4 Flash was looking to be a true inflection point on needing zero reliance on paid frontier for anything anymore, and they not only killed that, but EVERY OTHER FUTURE CHINESE OPEN RELEASE.
Yeah i seen someone saying that being an enemy of the us is hard but being an ally of the us is deadly.
I hope they didn't notice yet and still release qwen 4, but if it confirm itself, I join you, they focked millions/billions of peoples again, well done ...
Nous research just killed it's own business too
Yeah i seen someone saying that being an enemy of the us is hard but being an ally of the us is deadly.
I hope they didn't notice but if it confirm itself, I join you, they focked millions/billions of peoples again, well done ...
Even small things get scraped up since it's easy for models to run automated tools on keyword for western social media. It's guaranteed they saw it, because these rumors started spreading two days ago on Chinese social media about this being the reason, according to sources at labs.
Fuck, thank for the infos.
They completly fucked their community, do you know when it will be confirmed ?
I want a source to be able to tell every one to uninstall hermes since they clearly are working against their community.
Fuck, thank for the infos.
They completly fucked their community, do you know when it will be confirmed ?
I want a source to be able to tell every one to uninstall hermes since they clearly are working against their community.
I don't think it was intentional, I think they just got on their high horse to show off to everyone for clicks. Or maybe they were butt hurt about the Democrats winning, I don't know. But they obviously never took a second to think about how the CCP enforces companies to strict political adherence or took the time to read anything about the restrictions and guidelines that Chinese labs are required to follow.
Either way, I hope it reinforces the lesson to everyone that not thinking about second and third order effects of an action for clout or ego that has really nothing to do with the actual benefits something provides or the damaging effects of trying to break something for the sake of breaking it can completely wipe out the benefits of a technology for everyone.
yea Ustard always think law of other country doesn't count.
People on Nous discord are saying Qwen 4 will be released on openweight and people saying Nous made a mistake are trying to stir Chaos...
Ustard doing ustard...
That a fucking shame ...
I think they can't imagine the concept of sandbox capitalism, which make capitalism regulated.